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1. Gary  •  November 21, 2008 @2:33 pm

   Savings throws are still there, and they are important, but they serve a different purpose than in previous games. They are used entirely to end ongoing affects. Savings throws are almost always done at the end of one’s turn: for instance, if one were affected by ongoing fire damage, the fire damage is always applied at the beginning of the turn, and the save to end it is at the end. However, there may be powers and other abilities that allow one to make a savings throw at a different time. That makes those abilities very powerful. All savings throws have a target of 10 for success, but there may be positive and negative modifiers to that. For instance, there is a feat that grants humans +1 to all savings throws. If I were playing a human with the ongoing fire damage and I had that feat, I would roll a d20+1 versus 10 to save at the end of my turn.

   Savings throws play an important part in character death: “Dying” is an ongoing affect. A very successful savings throw brings the character back to consciousness. A merely successful savings throw merely keeps the character in the dying state. An unsuccessful savings throw may kill the character.

2. Lukanabis  •  May 3, 2009 @1:01 am

   I just wanted to say that making a saving throw with an ability score or subability score has always been a simple way of making saves since the Skills and Powers book made it optional to do that. Why don’t you do things that way? It does make sense to oppose poison against one’s health and mental saves versus willpower ect. You have to admit, it does make it a whole hell of alot simpler (with difficulty adjustments of course). The new method still sounds a bit confusing considering the fact that very little logic is involved with making sense out of it. Personally, in my campaigns, characters get better with training and age (wisdom)- not levels.

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